Sunday, September 29, 2013

Guns and Nuts.... and dancing girls.

Another mass shooting in America the other week. More discussion in the quieter and safer Tavern.

Every year for the past how many has seen a massacre of innocents by a gunman. Every year for the past how many, a President has led a demand for
more gun control.

Hey guys. The latest was in the most gun-controlled city in America.


On a military base.

On a military base where the soldiers and sailors are not allowed to have live bullets.

Hello !

The news show pundits all screamed 'right-wing nut'. We could hear them right over here.

Hey guys. Every one of the last lot, including the latest, going right back to the nutter who shot the senator lady Gabrielle Gifford, was known to be a left-wing voter and supporter of Obama. But heck, let's not shout that one around.

And were the gunmen the sort of people you would consider sane? 

Sane people don't go around shooting innocent bystanders going about their lawful occasions. (nor do sane people vote socialist, for that matter)

So why call for a ban on sane, reasonable people having guns?  Those millions of sane people don't go around shooting innocent bystanders.

And let's be clear ... there are millions of sane people with guns who have never let a thought of mass murder (on their part) enter their minds.

Let's hear from some clear minds stumbling over the rocky problem.

OK. Distasteful, isn't it. Not the three speakers, but the need to call a spade a spade.

Meanwhile in another country in a distant continent far, far away, more nutters invade a shopping centre.

And who is the hero of the day?

Why, its a chap with a gun.

HEY, ANTI-GUN IDIOTS: Off-duty soldier with handgun saved 100 lives as Muslim terrorists ran amok in Kenyan Mall 
A former (British) marine emerged as a hero of the Nairobi siege yesterday after he was credited with saving up to 100 lives. 
The ex soldier was having coffee at the Westgate mall when it was attacked by Islamists on Saturday. 
With a gun tucked into his waistband, he was pictured helping two women from the complex. 
His story emerged as sporadic gunfire continued to ring out from inside the mall early today as Kenyan security forces battled Al Qaeda-linked terrorists into a fourth day. 
Despite Kenyan police assurances that they had taken control of the building, a security expert with contacts inside the mall said at least 10 hostages were still being held by a band of attackers, possibly as many as 13. 
The former soldier is said to have returned to the building on a dozen occasions, despite intense gunfire. 
A friend in Nairobi said: ‘What he did was so heroic. He was having coffee with friends when it happened. 
‘He went back in 12 times  
and saved 100 people'.  
Imagine going back in when you knew what was going on inside.’ 
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Enough to sully the mind and damage the soul. Or lift it up.

So, while the three above - and we -  go back and forth over the problem, tip-toeing through the minefield, let's have some healing balm. Ladies going back and forth on tip toe.

Let's drink to the ladies. Keep your guns holstered.

Let me hear your considered view over a long, cool, one.


  1. To my mind this is not about left wing or right wing, it is about trigger happy nutters killing innocents. There are too many guns in the USA in the hands of crazy people. I believe in gun control but I know that it won't happen.

    As for the former soldier whose heroics are well documented by such worthy publications as the "Daily Mail" I want to know more. His heroism, if the stories are to be believed is beyond doubt, but still I ask, why was this man was carrying a gun while he was out for coffee in the local shopping mall, allowing that this violent attack could not be foreseen.


    1. The left-right issue is a side-topic, Dominic. In America it does seem to be a dominant one though.

      As for the Ex Royal Marine carrying a hand-gun in Kenya, one may well seek to know why anyone carries anything at all that is legal when he is going about his lawful occasions, but frankly it is none of my business. Why should he not carry a gun?

      Is it not a choice that a free, adult, mature man is best able to make for himself?

      I would imagine that it is for his self defence in a fairly lawless society. But whatever his reason, he is not at all likely to run amok, mindlessly shooting people. He didn't.

      Even Jesus Christ's Apostles carried side-arms.

    2. you're right anonymous , there ARE too mcuh guns in hands of crazy people.
      such as the state themselves. and the police , who follow orders instead of the law.

      you don't see me poking my beak where it does not belong ,
      when england is being flooded by islamic immigrants.
      its polite to stay out of it.

      what we are dealing with here , is two cultures , occupying the same space.
      but i just don't you are in any position to question our gun culture.
      and let me just say that its not going to end , its going to get way worse , and probably
      rightfully so. curse this union.

      as if you cared about loss of life , when you have folk beheading white men in the streets , of of your cities. perhaps knife control is in order


    3. Yes, the young soldier killed in Britain, might not have been if someone had shot his assailant.

  2. “There are only three types of citizenship: hero, villain, nobody.”
    ― Toba Beta, Master of Stupidity

    I think those in favor of gun control fail to understand that when they remove the opportunity for people to be villains, they also remove the opportunity for people to be heros as well. And it's got nothing to do with guns, but everything allowing people to choose between good and evil. And if they get what they want, then there will only be nobodies.

    From Iron John

    1. Agreed. But, villains are going to be villainous with or without guns. Heroes will be heroic too. It is for a man of conscience to make his choices.


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The Tavern gets rowdy visitors from time to time. Some are brain dead and some soul dead. They attack customers and the bar staff and piss on the carpets. Those people will not be allowed in anymore. So... Be Nice..