Someone asked the question in the bar but I was too busy to see who it was. But it gives pause for thought especially following the last conversation and examples just a day or two ago.
Our own society with multiple nations under a 'western civilisation' umbrella is sliding into irrationality, 'thought-reversal', counter intuitive actions, and downright self-destruction. Very akin to madness. And largely responsive to madnesses elsewhere and elsewhen.
But the conversation focused away from the Anglosphere and onto the Middle East. Muslims in particular.
We have all seen the many examples of 'exuberance' whenever some atrocity occurs, and people in the street shooting into the air from automatic weapons. It usually celebrates someone or many someones being killed. It is always an event confined to the middle-east.
They even 'celebrate' en-masse to revere suicidal mass murderers. Is this sane?
How many have you seen in Tonga thronging the streets shooting into the air when someone is murdered? British West Hartlepools? Toronto? Wagga Wagga?
And which area of the world seems to revel in spreading murder as a 'good'?
While the west is sliding into what some may see as irrepairable stupidty, the middle east has been there for an eon. Look and see your future.
What is it with the people there?
The middle east seems to be populated by psychopaths and sociopaths.
Yes, we have both disorders in western populations too, but it is the 'Norm' over there. Our 1-2% - some say more like 5% - are at the outer edges of the curve, but over in the middle east it is more like 5% sane and 95% completely mad.
I would hazard (from many centuries of personal observation) that very few children are born mad. I suspect that most are born bad, and have to be 'civilised' even down to not smearing poo on the bathroom wall, but they grow into fairly reasonable people.
Many 'Church of Nice' folk think we are born 'Good', and become bad. Hmmmmm. They forget that we are 'fallen' creatures. But even if not born Angels (some of whom have a terrible reputation) most western people are raised to show a semblance of civility, compassion, empathy, yeah, even Kindness.
A Danish psychologist Nicolai Sennels, put his pint down to give a 'professional' view. He does not give a mention to bad Angels, which this Knackered old Knight turned Tavern Keeper thinks may have a hand in it.
I tend not to pay too much attention to what Psychologists say, having been one for many years and seeing the profession sink into feminist and marxist drivel, but heck, sometimes they can give pointers.
How Islam Creates Sociopaths
Psychopathic people and behavior are found within all cultures and religions.
But one tops them all — by many lengths.
The daily mass killings, terror, persecutions and family executions committed by the followers of Islam are nauseating, and the ingenuity behind the attacks — always looking for new and more effective ways of killing and terrorizing people — is astonishing:
hijacking jumbo jets and flying them into skyscrapers, hunting unarmed and innocent people with grenades and automatic rifles in shopping malls, planting bombs in one’s own body, using model airplanes as drones, attaching large rotating blades to pickup trucks and using them as human lawn movers, killing family members with acid or fire, hanging people publicly from cranes in front of cheering crowds, etc.- in addition to stabbing people in the back, shooting parents in front of their children, slitting throats of sleeping babies, etc.
It makes one ask oneself: what creates such lack of empathy and almost playful and creative attitude towards murdering perceived enemies?
This is a question for psychologists like me.Studying the Muslim mindNobody is born a mass murderer, a rapist or a violent criminal. So what is it in the Muslim culture that influence their children in a way that make so relatively many Muslims harm other people?For people to change, they have to want it, to be allowed to change, and to be able to change — and only a tiny minority of Muslims have such lucky conditions.As a psychologist in a Danish youth prison, I had a unique chance to study the mentality of Muslims.
70 percent of youth offenders in Denmark have a Muslim background. I was able to compare them with non-Muslim clients from the same age group with more or less the same social background.
I came to the conclusion that Islam and Muslim culture have certain psychological mechanisms that harm people’s development and increase criminal behavior.
I am, of course, aware that Muslims are different, and not all Muslims follow the Quran’s violent and perverted message and their prophet’s equally embarrassing example. But as with all other religions, Islam also influences its followers and the culture they live in.
One could talk about two groups of psychological mechanisms that both singly and combined increase violent behavior.
One group is mainly connected with religion, which aims at indoctrinating Islamic values in children as early as possible and with whatever means necessary, including violence and intimidation.
One can understand a Muslim parent’s concern about his offspring’s religious choices, because the Sharia orders the death penalty for their children should they pick another religion than their parents.
Update: Here is a video made by Palestinians about the killing of Palestinian. Not by Irsaelis. It is narrated by an Arab chap who is equally scandalised by this behaviour; this atrocity; this Madness.The other group of mechanisms are more cultural and psychological. These cultural psychological mechanisms are a natural consequence of being influenced by a religion like Islam and stemming from a 1,400 year old tribal society with very limited freedom to develop beyond what the religion allows.
There are some englsih-speaking folk (a growing number) in the west that think almost any 'religious' upbringing is 'Indoctrination'. They fail to see a difference between 'Love you neighbour' and 'Cut your neighbour's throat'. They too are en route to being sociopaths. They are intellectually and morally blind.
Classical Brainwashing Methods in the Upbringing.
Fanaticise, all over the world? Really?Brainwashing people into believing or doing things against their own human nature — such as hating or even killing innocents they do not even know — is traditionally done by combining two things: pain and repetition. The conscious infliction of psychological and physical suffering breaks down the person’s resistance to the constantly repeated message.
Totalitarian regimes use this method to 're-form' political dissidents. Armies in less civilized countries use it to create ruthless soldiers, and religious sects all over the world use it to fanaticize their followers.
I really do think he could qualify that a bit. 'Religious messages'? He means Islamic hate messages. Christians also have religious messages prevalent in their families. Love thy neighbour !!During numerous sessions with more than a hundred Muslim clients, I found that violence and repetition of religious messages are prevalent in Muslim families.
Muslim culture simply does not have the same degree of understanding of human development as in civilized societies, and physical pain and threats are therefore often the preferred tool to raise children. This is why so many Muslim girls grow up to accept violence in their marriage, and why Muslim boys grow up to learn that violence is acceptable.
And it is the main reason why nine out of ten children removed from their parents by authorities in Copenhagen are from immigrant families. The Muslim tradition of using pain and intimidation as part of disciplining children are also widely used in Muslim schools — also in the West.
Combined with countless repetitions of Quranic verses in Islamic schools and families, all this makes it very difficult for children to defend themselves against being indoctrinated to follow the Quran, even if it is against secular laws, logic, and the most basic understanding of compassion.
And as we know from so many psychological studies, whatever a child is strongly influenced by at that age takes an enormous personal effort to change later in life. It is no wonder that Muslims in general, in spite of Islam’s inhumane nature and obvious inability to equip its followers with humor, compassion and other attractive qualities, are stronger in their faith than any other religious group.
Four Enabling Psychological Factors
Not only does a traditional Islamic upbringing resemble classical brainwashing methods, but also, the culture it generates cultivates four psychological characteristics that further enable and increase violent behavior.These four mental factors are• anger• lack of self-confidence• no sense of responsibility for oneself• intoleranceWhen it comes to anger, Western societies widely agree that it is a sign of weakness. Uncontrolled explosions of this unpleasant feeling are maybe the fastest way of losing face, especially in Northern countries, and though angry people may be feared, they are never respected.
In Muslim culture, anger is much more accepted, and being able to intimidate people is seen as strength and source of social status.
We even see ethnic Muslim groups or countries proudly declare whole days of anger, and use expressions such as “holy anger” — a term that seems contradictory in peaceful cultures.
In Western societies, the ability to handle criticism constructively if it is justified, and with a shrug if it is misguided, is seen as an expression of self-confidence and authenticity.
As everyone has noticed, this is not the case among Muslims. Here criticism, no matter how true, is seen as an attack on one’s honor, and it is expected that the honor is restored by using whatever means necessary to silence the opponent.
Oh how the left in the west has learned from sociopathy. Oz saw a gentle and reasonable man banned from entering the country last week. He wanted to speak about saving babies.Muslims almost never attempt to counter criticism with logical arguments; instead, they try to silence the criticism by pretending to be offended or by name-calling, or by threatening or even killing the messenger.
The third psychological factor concerns responsibility for oneself, and here the psychological phenomenon “locus of control” plays a major role. People raised by Western standards generally have an inner locus of control, meaning that they experience their lives as governed by inner factors, such as one’s own choices, world view, ways of handling emotions and situations, etc. Muslims are raised to experience their lives as being controlled from the outside.
Everything happens “insha’ Allah” — if Allah wills — and the many religious laws, traditions and powerful male authorities leave little room for individual responsibility.
This is the cause for the embarrassing and world-famous Muslim victim mentality, where everybody else is blamed and to be punished for the Muslims’ own self-created situation.
Finally, the fourth psychological factor making Muslims vulnerable to the violent message in the Quran concerns tolerance. While Western societies in general define a good person as being open and tolerant, Muslims are told that they are superior to non-Muslims, destined to dominate non-Muslims, and that they must distance themselves socially and emotionally from non-Muslims.
The many hateful and dehumanizing verses in the Quran and the Hadiths against non-Muslims closely resemble the psychological propaganda that leaders use against their own people in order to prepare them mentally for fighting and killing the enemy. Killing another person is easier if you hate him and do not perceive him as fully human.
Why Islam Creates Monsters
The cultural and psychological cocktail of anger, low self-esteem, victim mentality, a willingness to be blindly guided by outer authorities, and an aggressive and discriminatory view toward non-Muslims, forced upon Muslims through pain, intimidation and mind-numbing repetitions of the Quran’s almost countless verses promoting hate and violence against non-Muslims, is the reason why Islam creates monsters.The Psychological Problem within IslamThe problem with Islam and Muslim culture is that there are so many psychological factors pushing its followers towards a violent attitude against non-Muslims that a general violent clash is — at least from a psychological perspective — inevitable.
With such strong pressure and such strong emotions within such a large group of people — all pitched against us — we are facing the perfect storm,
and I see no possibilities of turning it around.
For people to change, they have to want it, to be allowed to change, and to be able to change — and only a tiny minority of Muslims have such lucky conditions.
Far too many people underestimate the power of psychology embedded in religion and culture. As we have already seen, no army of social workers, generous welfare states, sweet-talking politicians, politically correct journalists or democracy-promoting soldiers can stop these enormous forces.
I would be interested to hear how this is to be achieved. To date our elected representatives have only made matters worse.Sensible laws on immigration and Islamization in our own countries can limit the amount of suffering, but based on my education and professional experience as a psychologist for Muslims, I estimate that we will not be able to deflect or avoid this many-sided, aggressive movement against our culture.
I do believe that we, as a democratic and educated society can become focused and organized concerning the preservation of our values and constitutions, can win this ongoing conflict started by the often inbred followers of Sharia. The big question is how much of our dignity, our civil rights, and our blood, money and tears will we lose in the process.
They - the politicians - are like this Chinese fellow. They do things that need not even be attempted, speaking a language no-one can follow, with so many consequences just not thought about. And then wonder why the result is not appreciated with clapping.
Hello! Perhaps a bit of gunfire in the streets would help.
Keep your fire extinguisher handy.
It may be a long and dark night we are entering.
And drink up.