tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post5024101300410439273..comments2023-09-06T22:30:02.061+10:00Comments on The Knight & Drummer: THAT InterviewAmfortashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07474382097575605017noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-33266220977079313672018-01-24T11:00:05.515+11:002018-01-24T11:00:05.515+11:00I shall have to go over and have a look at JH'...I shall have to go over and have a look at JH's. Am I OK with it?<br /> I have to be. Mostly, people do not seek my permission to do things and I am not aware of much of what others do.Amfortashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07474382097575605017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-88264508486405617672018-01-24T06:55:45.785+11:002018-01-24T06:55:45.785+11:00Cathy Newman's usefulness diminishes, her curr...Cathy Newman's usefulness diminishes, her currency goes down, credibility slashed by nasty men ...must be bad for women everywhere<br /><br />more evidence I suppose of how Mr Peterson single-handedly contributed to increasing the pay gap.<br /><br />no doubt he's ruined BLS 'statistics' too<br /><br />[/sarc]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-20834763200025541532018-01-24T05:29:09.035+11:002018-01-24T05:29:09.035+11:00I didn't mean you, Lord Somber, if that's ...I didn't mean you, Lord Somber, if that's what you meant - I have no idea what you think or how you feel. But thank you for involving yourself anyway :)Chrysalishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09972571880025416943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-1361817775506848632018-01-24T03:25:34.693+11:002018-01-24T03:25:34.693+11:00"People want to fear, hate and scapegoat the ..."People want to fear, hate and scapegoat the left, blacks, muslims, mexicans and women for everything, lump us all into one category as if we are all the same, and not listen to what we have to say about it, okay."<br /><br />"People"?<br />Who's lumping "us" into one category, exactly?<br /><br />The irony, it confounds.LordSomberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08483452672640797537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-35378503246312418292018-01-24T02:17:08.742+11:002018-01-24T02:17:08.742+11:00As I replied, there has been a mass shooting here ...As I replied, there has been a mass shooting here in Kentucky at a high school. All I meant was the hatred and fear of each other needs to stop. Please. It's really bad here :(Chrysalishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09972571880025416943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-24692574822207915622018-01-24T02:07:28.047+11:002018-01-24T02:07:28.047+11:00So .... it's okay with you that DforD ran over...So .... it's okay with you that DforD ran over to JH's, copy/pasted my words, and claimed I was a crybully though I never said nor even implied that? <br /><br />I simply meant I can see lefties aren't welcome here and my words failed at making a difference/fell on deaf ears - I blamed me for trying to talk to brick walls.<br /><br />Well, that kind of undoes the whole point of your post then, doesn't it? Because clearly, not listening, twisting words, and putting words in mouths is not exclusive to the left or women. <br /><br />Smh, as I said, I return your unsolicited advice to you - perhaps you should consider the company YOU keep. <br /><br />Well, I'll leave you all to commiserate and drown your troubles - who are always everyone else's fault - in your drinks. However, solutions to troubles are rarely found that way.Chrysalishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09972571880025416943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-41038214671897180542018-01-24T01:58:13.267+11:002018-01-24T01:58:13.267+11:00Chrystal, put the spade away. You do not really wa...Chrystal, put the spade away. You do not really want to dig a hole any deeper, especially in my carpet.Amfortashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07474382097575605017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-14667821670436157162018-01-24T00:27:42.756+11:002018-01-24T00:27:42.756+11:00I'm sure I will fall on deaf ears again, but I...I'm sure I will fall on deaf ears again, but I thought I'd at least try to explain to you, Amfortas, since you have clearly misunderstood. <br /><br />However, I feel a bit like Dr. Peterson right now, not because anyone is being a jerk, but because people see what they want to see, hear what they want to here, and believe what they want to believe despite what I actually said. <br /><br />I wasn't referring to my comment yesterday, I was talking about DforD's comment about women not long ago- which he clearly understood what I meant because he ran crying to JH about it publicly.<br /><br />And I agreed with you 100% she was a jerk - however, your point was that "leftards" don't listen to "facts." <br /><br />One woman being a jerk and not listening to this man's OPINION is not proof that everyone on the left or all women don't listen to FACTS. Neither person gave facts here - they were both giving opinions (what little he managed to get out).<br /><br />DforDoom - if you want to copy/paste my words and reply to me, then why didn't you do it here, where I said them instead of JH's? <br /><br />For the record, no - my decision to leave blogging now, as well as FB is not because I have been "crybullied" by anyone - it's because I realized what I say doesn't make a difference anyway - people see what they want to see, believe what they want to believe - so please do not flatter yourself. <br /><br />I saw this polarization coming years ago and there's nothing I could do to stop it or make a difference. People want to fear, hate and scapegoat the left, blacks, muslims, mexicans and women for everything, lump us all into one category as if we are all the same, and not listen to what we have to say about it, okay. Nothing I can do about it. <br /><br />Dig up some video with some harpie from the press acts like a jerk and use it as proof we're all like that? Be my guest. <br /><br />Take care to look in the mirror, though, when you accuse other people of lumping all men together, ascribing the worst motivations, twisting words, and not listening, though righties. Because that behavior is clearly not exclusive to the left <br /><br /><br />Why, did you want me to feel crybullied? Well that's a fail then for you - because I'm not blaming anyone else for my decision except me. <br /><br />Chrysalishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09972571880025416943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-60729482576153785162018-01-23T18:48:44.331+11:002018-01-23T18:48:44.331+11:00This psychologist now runs a Tavern. :)This psychologist now runs a Tavern. :)Amfortashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07474382097575605017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-18144127509710665762018-01-23T18:19:42.440+11:002018-01-23T18:19:42.440+11:00Have just come back to read with a fresh head. Wel...Have just come back to read with a fresh head. Well put, sir. This and Delingpole will serve as the definitive comments on the issue. Amazing how Ms Vapid then tries to turn it into a racist/sexist/whatever thing. As for “common ground”, there isn’t always you know. That demi-woman was bang out of order.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-30475789427982539102018-01-23T17:09:25.911+11:002018-01-23T17:09:25.911+11:00Chided you? I have not commented on what you said,...Chided you? I have not commented on what you said, let alone chided you.<br /><br />Yes, leftard is a neat term. Not mine but in common use. I do like your 'presstard' though.<br /><br />The issue of bad male interviewers is moot as this did not concern any others, just this one.<br /><br />Wage gap. Hmmm. He didn't sit there silent. He had already answered. On that matter there have been a few attempts to prosecute employers who paid differentially on the basis of gender (or so it was determined) and each of the few times it was in the public sector. One would think that were women paid less for the same work/job there would be many such court cases. There have not been. One would also think that any sane employer would hire only women and save 'x'% on the wages bill. That doesn't happen either.<br /><br />Most businesses these days use one form of 'job-worth' system or another to measure work which do not have gender as a factor. There are even long standing Associations of Remuneration Specialists within the human resources world that have been busy making work paid properly regardless of gender for the past fifty odd years, ever since it became illegal to pay on the basis of gender. I was even a member of the American one for some years.<br /><br />This gentleman Knight has many battles to fight on his own account and does not rush to defend or attack willy-nilly when there are good folk like yourself to do the job. It is not as though I stop you. You had the opportunity above and used it. Good for you. <br /><br />Physician heal myself, eh? Good one. I have been trying to heal for many more years than you have lived. 'Tis going well from a very fallen start! How about you? No beams to pluck from your eye whilst poking the motes in mine? There is plenty of God's Grace in this Tavern, but it takes Faith to drink it. A bit of humility can be sought too. I have bottles of it hanging by the hard stuff.<br /><br />I was reading just an hour or so ago the 'analysis' of tweets and other comments that Channel 4 says are 'threats' against Mz Newman's life. So far not a skerrick of a threat against her but running 300 : 1 against Peterson with real threats. From feminists and leftards and those that like presstards.<br />Amfortashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07474382097575605017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-14483205145398001362018-01-23T12:41:14.327+11:002018-01-23T12:41:14.327+11:00I tried to find common ground, here. But there is...I tried to find common ground, here. But there isn't any grace or God's love here, anymore. I should've figured that out when the juice you left out for some libs you felt were "sick" for supporting LGBTQ, you later said you left out for me, too :(<br /><br />I can see "leftards" aren't welcome here, anymore. Note, however, that I never called you or anyone anything of the kind. And despite the fact that you were always trying to find insult in my comments, there actually were none.<br /><br />The worst thing I said here was after the commenter came in and objectified and insulted ALL women by claiming smart women were dangerous and shouldn't be educated, which disturbed your other female commenters. We expected the gentleman knight to come in and defend your female friends' honor - but you didn't. You simply "hahaha-ed" and joked he was going to upset half your commenters.<br /><br />Thus, I stepped in, replied to another commenter who reacted to him, calling him "it" because I figured turnabout was fair play, as long as we were objectifying groups of people into subhuman.<br /><br />And what did you do? Chided ME because I held up a mirror to his pointing finger. <br /><br />But please, continue to high-five commenters who say these types of things as your Christian brothers - but I'm not sure Christ would, as I'm not sure they have Christ's true interest, nor your best interest or emotional health in mind with these comments. I think misery enjoys company - and they will do their best to keep you from ever finding light and happiness with a woman so that they don't have to be all alone in their misery.<br /><br />Regardless, what was that you were saying about the company you keep?<br /><br />Physician, heal thyself. <br /><br />May God bless and keep you just the same,<br /><br />Chrystal<br /><br /><br />Chrysalishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09972571880025416943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-77045001338320820092018-01-23T12:05:26.056+11:002018-01-23T12:05:26.056+11:00As for his opinion, IMO, a psychologist's opin...<em>As for his opinion, IMO, a psychologist's opinion is not based on fact either</em><br /><br />Agreed. Psychology is pseudoscience.dfordoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-40824564564047555312018-01-23T12:02:22.421+11:002018-01-23T12:02:22.421+11:00However, the one time she DID manage to pause to t...<em>However, the one time she DID manage to pause to take a breath to let him answer direct questions he didn't - such as "Do you believe in equal pay for women?," he smiled and said nothing.</em><br /><br />I'm not surprised Peterson funked that question. Peterson is a liberal. Like most liberals who criticise liberalism he can't see that the problem is not that liberalism has been pushed too far. The problem is liberalism itself.<br /><br />In a sane society the gender pay gap would not even be an issue. It would be understood that of course men should be paid more than women. Men have the responsibility to provide financially for their families. Women don't. That's not their role. Men and women also cannot do the same types of jobs because men and women are different.<br /><br />Liberals always remain trapped in their own ideology. Even relatively intelligent liberals cling to the fantasy that men and women are interchangeable.<br /><br />Peterson provides plenty of entertainment and it's fun to see him upset liberals. It really hurts them because he's one of their own. But he cannot be regarded as anything more than an ally of convenience, until he learns to question liberalism itself.dfordoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-13573313385704846992018-01-23T10:18:07.482+11:002018-01-23T10:18:07.482+11:00I look forward, pint at hand.I look forward, pint at hand.Amfortashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07474382097575605017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-36259649508274503042018-01-23T07:19:25.009+11:002018-01-23T07:19:25.009+11:00You beat me to it, sir, mine's tomorrow morn. ...You beat me to it, sir, mine's tomorrow morn. Shall link to yours.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-41107384833104001992018-01-23T05:06:18.155+11:002018-01-23T05:06:18.155+11:00PPS What is interesting to note is that if you che...PPS What is interesting to note is that if you check the BLS' statistics through the years, regardless of what political party was in charge, though the income for women has positively increased some for doing the same job as men, women have always made less and still do.<br /><br />But as I said, all this tell us is this is a statistical fact - we don't have the "why's" yet other than speculation.Chrysalishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09972571880025416943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-90586076227785861922018-01-23T04:54:04.998+11:002018-01-23T04:54:04.998+11:00PS - my apologies, I failed to produce my own sour...PS - my apologies, I failed to produce my own source, when I stated as fact: <em>"Regardless, the only thing we know is that there is a statistical gap in pay (at least in America) between genders - but we don't have proof on what CAUSES this gap." </em><br /><br />The BLS (Bureau of Labor Statistics), here: https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/womens-earnings/2016/pdf/home.pdf<br /><br />There are also various other links at the BLS that break it down according to same occupations, education level, etc. <br /><br />These findings are based on self-reported income by the US census combined with verified by payroll data.<br /><br />The only fact it actually provides, though, is that there IS a gap - the speculation as to WHY there is a gap is all subjective opinion on both sides :)<br /><br />And again, a psychologist's opinion is a more educated one, but it is still just subjective opinion based on his personal experiences or field of study. Chrysalishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09972571880025416943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-2688150922927336612018-01-23T02:42:35.667+11:002018-01-23T02:42:35.667+11:00I think she gave a horrible, biased interview that...I think she gave a horrible, biased interview that twisted his words, tried to nail him in a corner for things he didn't say. <br /><br />So much for "leftards" who don't listen(thanks for that endearing term, btw :) <br /><br />However, I don't think biased interviews and word-twisting are exclusively left or female behavior, either :)<br /><br />She clearly should be an ambulance-chasing lawyer, not in the media.<br /><br />However, the one time she DID manage to pause to take a breath to let him answer direct questions he didn't - such as "Do you believe in equal pay for women?," he smiled and said nothing.<br /><br />Now people with his bias might say he was just thinking or hesitating to answer because it was pointless. People with her bias might say he didn't want to answer honestly/directly. <br /><br />I say I really don't know why - but I'd like to hear his answer :)<br /><br />Regardless, I don't think either person in this interview is giving facts - I think they're giving opinion - and our own bias makes a huge difference in how we view it.<br /><br />I tried to remove my bias before witnessing it because you challenged us to. That is what I see - two people giving their opinion and one of them was an obnoxious "presstard." :)<br /><br />As for his opinion, IMO, a psychologist's opinion is not based on fact either - they are limited by the scope of their own private practice/focused field of study. Their opinion could contribute to larger societal issues, of course, but they are not "fact."<br /><br />Additionally, female psychologists or study men and male psychologists who study women are always a red flag to me - do they have their own issues with the opposite gender they're trying to sort out? Perhaps they should get those sorted out in therapy first to prevent bias and harming their patients, even inadvertently. <br /><br />Having said that, I would agree in part with what Dr. Peterson said on one opinion he managed to get out in that women who were fixated on the need to dominate men probably had some issues in their past relationships or a prior experience causing their need to do so. <br /><br />However, that in and of itself might actually lend undue credence to the other side - if there are that many women damaged by the men in their family of origin, then there would be indeed many men abused their power with women. <br /><br />(I'm not saying that's true, I'm simply saying by his logic, that implies that there are a lot of women with domination issues causes by domineering fathers?)<br /><br />However, I'm also curious as to why some men are bothered so much by women wanting equal pay or the pay gap issue?<br /><br />Some psychologists would say that the male fixation with subjects like this is based on their own attachment issues, but instead of assuming that, I thought I'd ask? :)<br /><br />I disagree with his opinion that the pay gap between gender is not based on gender - but that is MY subjective opinion :)<br /><br />I've actually heard men say things like they wouldn't hire a woman in management because "they couldn't handle it, they'd go home and cry and quit" without being given a chance. (No, I was never the woman in question.) <br /><br />Regardless, the only thing we know is that there is a statistical gap in pay (at least in America) between genders - but we don't have proof on what CAUSES this gap. <br /><br />Perhaps if we spent more time listening to each other about these personal experiences and doing studies on them - removing our belie/biases first - rather than dismissing the other side based on what opinions we already hold, we'd get somewhere :)<br /><br />Regardless, personal question - may I ask why what women choose to do and believe about so frequently important to you? I mean, I get the anti-abortion stuff and agree. But frequent topics like this, I guess I don't get how they are harmful for people to believe even if false. Lots of people believe lots of kooky stuff. Oh well, if it's not harmful to us personally or society in some way?Chrysalishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09972571880025416943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-41977418454902626022018-01-22T19:52:18.705+11:002018-01-22T19:52:18.705+11:00Yes, she abandoned all opportunity to do her job a...Yes, she abandoned all opportunity to do her job as an interviewer, which was to give the interviewee every opportunity to explain his position. Instead she was an advocate for feminism, doing her best to rubbish his points, even to the extent of misrepresenting them. And it was so obvious. Did she not understand that WE could hear what he said?Amfortashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07474382097575605017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-776872662073607566.post-27787678095401560812018-01-22T17:43:53.147+11:002018-01-22T17:43:53.147+11:00I never had to interview people in my job,but I di...I never had to interview people in my job,but I did have to give formal presentations to large groups of people. If I had ever crashed like that I'd have been fired. 🔥Mark In Mayennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14987723233401368368noreply@blogger.com